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ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATES.

The fact of the matter is Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are both establishment candidates. Obama's establishment just happens to be a little younger and less entrenched than Clinton's establishment. She's got the agency heads, he's got their frustrated deputies. Sometimes, this is because the deputies liked him better. Other times, it's because they realized he was their best chance for advancement (one of the dynamics that played out in Washington last year was that a lot of Clinton's alliances were already set, and so folks who weren't already in the inner circle threw their lot in with Obama simply on careerist grounds). But either way, the difference is intra-establishment. Both candidates, after all, are Senators, which except in very idiosyncratic cases (Russ Feingold, Tom Coburn, Bernie Sanders) makes them definitionally part of the establishment. If Biden or Dodd had roared to the front of the pack, the establishment would have also supported them.

Governors are often able to escape the "establishment" label simply because they don't live here, and thus don't know the establishment well enough to attract their support early in the campaign. That's not a function of them being courageous renegades so much as it has to do with where they take their mail. In their own states, after all, they are the establishment. Conversely, John Edwards was an establishment favorite in 2004, but actually wasn't in 2008, as in the interim much of the DC establishment decided they hated him.



COMMENTS

Another way to say this would be: There's a relatively permanent group of technocrats who move in and out of government. No one is going to sweep into the White House without attracting some significant level of support from these people, and the politicians they work for. Even if Obama wasn't attracting genuine endorsements, he's viable enough now for some job-seekers to opportunistically come out for him.

By the time a candidate gets within haling distance of the nomination, some part of the establishment is going to be with him or her.

There was an interesting segment on yesterday's edition of NPR's "The World" where the host interviewed three European journalists who have been assigned to cover the primary campaigns. The journalists were asked to name an issue that makes no sense to their home audiences and that they have to explain constantly as a result. The Polish journalist answered that he can never understand why the candidates are always talking about "change" when at the same time, no one seems to be proposing to actually change anything in particular. The U.S., he said, is a very predictable, stable country that has basically been doing the same stuff for 200 years.

So, who exactly is the anti-Edwards DC establishment? That journalists in general were not enamored of him was pretty obvious. Similarly, the absence of endorsements from other Senators was clear. But the only one to really come out against him was Feingold, and he's not textbook establishment as you note. Still, this idea that Edwards had powerful enemies in DC was an odd sort of hush-hush theme in commentary on the Edwards campaign. Chuck Todd said as much after one of the debates, but never named names. Now that Edwards is out, will the identities of those wielding long knives be disclosed??

While I think it's impressive how many establishment figures Obama has compared to Clinton(considering their differing circumstances ), you can't call Obama the establishment candidate. Clinton has a majority (in many places an overwhelming one) of support from the machine. In some states such as Virgina Obama might be the more establishment candidate

Ezra,

I think what has made Sen. Clinton the "establishment" candidate in this primary is the backing she's received from State and local Democratic Party politicians whose connections and GOTV experience have been invaluable.

This type of support, and the large traditional Democratic donors that come with it, represent a tremendous advantage.

Obama by contrast has built his ground organization largely from scratch. And while he's also certainly had some big donors contribute to his campaign, most of his money has come from small donors (less than $100).

Anyhow, while I don’t particularly care for labels (such as who is the “establishment” candidate, because they mean so many different things to different people) I do believe it’s useful to point out that Sen. Clinton's campaign has benefited greatly from Democratic Party establishment support; whereas Obama's campaign has accomplished much of what they have by building (especially in the beginning) support from the outside.

Yes, what Aaron M says. Ezra, as usual, assumes policy shops are everything.

But where Hillary had the advantage is in the local politicians - people like Mayor Menino of Boston, Mayor Villaraigosa of LA, all those black preachers in South Carolina that she bribed into supporting her, and so forth.

Folks who are buying into Aaron M's take might want to read this...


Barack Obama Inc.:
The birth of a Washington machine

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/11/0081275
...It was a rousing speech, and Obama is probably the only member of Congress who could have delivered it with any conviction or credibility. When he left the stage and headed toward the hotel exit, he was trailed by a pack of autograph seekers, picture takers, and glad-handers.

Despite its audience and ostensible subject matter, however, Obama’s speech had contained just a single call for political action. This was when he had introduced Mark Pike, a law student who then came bounding across the stage in a green one-piece mechanic’s outfit. As part of a campaign called “Kick the Oil Habit,” Pike was to depart directly from the conference and drive from Washington to Los Angeles in a “flex-fuel” vehicle. “Give it up for Mark!” Obama had urged the crowd, noting that Pike would be refueling only at gas stations that offer E85—which Obama touts as “a clean, renewable, and domestically produced alternative fuel.”

Although the senator did not elaborate, E85 is so called because it is 85 percent ethanol, a product whose profits accrue to a small group of corporate corn growers led by Illinois-headquartered Archer Daniels Midland. Not surprisingly, agribusiness is a primary advocate of E85, as are such automobile manufacturers as Ford, which donated Pike’s car. The automakers love E85 because it allows them to look environmentally correct (“Live Green, Go Yellow,” goes GM’s advertising pitch for the fuel) while producing vehicles, mostly highly profitable and fuel-guzzling SUV and pickup models, that can run on regular gasoline as well as on E85. 11. Since producing most domestic ethanol requires large amounts of fossil fuel, and regular gasoline provides about 30 percent more mileage per gallon than E85, it’s arguably preferable from a conservation standpoint to drive a standard gasoline car rather than a flex-fuel vehicle. Obama had essentially marshaled his twenty minutes of undeniably moving oratory to plump for the classic pork-barrel cause of every Midwestern politician.

* * *
...it is also startling to see how quickly Obama’s senatorship has been woven into the web of institutionalized influence-trading that afflicts official Washington. He quickly established a political machine funded and run by a standard Beltway group of lobbyists, P.R. consultants, and hangers-on. For the staff post of policy director he hired Karen Kornbluh, a senior aide to Robert Rubin when the latter, as head of the Treasury Department under Bill Clinton, was a chief advocate for NAFTA and other free-trade policies that decimated the nation’s manufacturing sector (and the organized labor wing of the Democratic Party). Obama’s top contributors are corporate law and lobbying firms (Kirkland & Ellis and Skadden, Arps, where four attorneys are fund-raisers for Obama as well as donors), Wall Street financial houses (Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase), and big Chicago interests (Henry Crown and Company, an investment firm that has stakes in industries ranging from telecommunications to defense). Obama immediately established a “leadership PAC,” a vehicle through which a member of Congress can contribute to other politicians’ campaigns—and one that political reform groups generally view as a slush fund through which congressional leaders can evade campaign-finance rules while raising their own political profiles.

...Obama has taken an approach to his policymaking that is notably cautious and nonconfrontational. “Since the founding, the American political tradition has been reformist, not revolutionary,” he told me during an interview at his office on Capitol Hill this summer. “What that means is that for a political leader to get things done, he or she ideally should be ahead of the curve, but not too far ahead. I want to push the envelope but make sure I have enough folks with me that I’m not rendered politically impotent.”

...[Obama] "I’m just saying there are going to be points where donors have more access and are taken more into account than ordinary voters.” The solution he supports is some form of public financing for campaigns, combined—since big donors “are always going to find a way to get money” to candidates—with some reduction in the cost of running for office; for example, by providing candidates with free political advertising.

...[Bush’s Clear Skies Initiative]In the end, he opposed it because he decided it would have been more beneficial to western coal producers, not those in Illinois. “That kind of vote is a tough vote, not so much on the merits as it is on the politics,” he said. “I then have to spend a lot of time working that through with my constituents in southern Illinois, explaining to them why I did not think it was actually good for them.” Even so, he took heat at home, with one southern Illinois newspaper editorial saying that he was less interested in looking out for the interests of the state’s coal industry than he was in voting with the interests of Barbara Boxer and Hillary Clinton.

And what if he had determined that the Clear Skies Initiative would have aided Illinois coal? I asked. In that case, Obama said, “It would have been more difficult for me. . . . If I thought that it would have significantly helped Illinois coal but would have been a net minus for the environment, then you’ve got your classic legislative dilemma.”

Obama said that the “blogger community,” which by now is shorthand for liberal Democrats, gets frustrated with him because they think he’s too willing to compromise with Republicans. “My argument,” he says, “is that a polarized electorate plays to the advantage of those who want to dismantle government. Karl Rove can afford to win with 51 percent of the vote. They’re not trying to reform health care. They are content with an electorate that is cynical about government. Progressives have a harder job. They need a big enough majority to initiate bold proposals.”

* * *
Before he addressed the 2004 convention, Obama was virtually unknown nationally, and even in Illinois his was far from a household name. Just four years earlier, he had been defeated by a significant margin when he tried to unseat Chicago-area Congressman Bobby Rush in the Democratic primary. But following the speech, which was universally hailed—even the National Review called it “simple and powerful,” conceding that it had deserved its “rapturous critical reception”—Obama became a national celebrity. Less than two months later, he won election to the Senate with 70 percent of the vote.

If the speech was his debut to the wider American public, he had already undergone an equally successful but much quieter audition with Democratic Party leaders and fund-raisers, without whose support he would surely never have been chosen for such a prominent role at the convention. The early, if not overwhelming, favorite to be the Senate nominee from Illinois had been Dan Hynes, the state comptroller, who had twice won statewide office and had the support of the state’s Democratic machine and labor unions. But by September 2003, six months before the primary, Obama was winning support from not only African Americans but also Chicago’s “Lakefront Liberals” and other progressives. He was still largely unknown in Washington circles, but that changed the following month when Vernon Jordan, the well-known power broker and corporate boardmember who chaired Bill Clinton’s presidential transition team after the 1992 election, placed calls to roughly twenty of his friends and invited them to a fund-raiser at his home.

That event marked his entry into a well-established Washington ritual—the gauntlet of fund-raising parties and meet-and-greets through which potential stars are vetted by fixers, donors, and lobbyists. Gregory Craig, an attorney with Williams & Connolly and a longtime Democratic figure who, as special counsel in the White House, had coordinated Bill Clinton’s impeachment defense, met Obama that night. “I liked his sense of humor and the confidence he had discussing national issues, especially as a state senator,” Craig recalled of the event. “You felt excited to be in his presence.” Another thing that Craig liked about Obama was that he’s not seen as a “polarizer,” like such traditional African-American leaders as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. “He gets respect from his adversaries because of the way he treats them,” Craig said. “He doesn’t try to be all things to all people, but he has a way of taking positions you don’t like without making you angry.”

Word about Obama spread through Washington’s blue-chip law firms, lobby shops, and political offices, and this accelerated after his win in the March primary. Mike Williams, vice president for legislative affairs at The Bond Market Association and a member of an African-American lobbying association, had been following the race in Illinois and was introduced to Obama through acquaintances in Washington who had known him at Harvard Law School. “We represent Wall Street firms,” Williams said in recounting his first conversation with Obama. “A big issue for us since 2000 is predatory lending. He worked on that issue in Illinois; he was the lead sponsor of a bill there. I talked to him about that. He had a different position from ours. There’s a perception out there that the Democrats are anti-business, and I talked to him about that directly. I said, There’s a perception that you’re coming at this from the angle of consumers. He was forthright, which I appreciated. He said, I tried to broker the best deal I could.” Williams still had his differences with Obama, but the conversation convinced him that the two could work together. “He’s not a political novice and he’s smart enough not to say things cast in stone, but you can have a conversation with him,” Williams said. “He’s a straight shooter. As a lobbyist, that’s something you value. You don’t need a yes every time, but you want to be able to count the votes. That’s what we do.”

Williams subsequently set up a conference call between Obama and a group of financial-industry lobbyists. That, too, went well, and in June of 2004, Williams helped organize “a little fund-raiser” for Obama at The Bond Market Association. “It wasn’t just the financial community. There was a broad cross-section,” he said of the 200 or so people who turned out. “There was overwhelming support, not just people from associations giving $2,000 but from individuals who just wanted to meet him, giving smaller contributions.”

Tom Quinn, a senior partner at Venable and widely considered one of the top lobbyists in town, got a call from Williams and attended the fund-raiser. “I’m on the list. Pretty much everyone in political fund-raising circles knows me,” said Quinn, who works closely with the Democratic National Committee and has been a party power broker since the late 1960s, when he worked on the presidential campaign of Hubert Humphrey. “Every day I get ten or fifteen solicitations. I contribute if I like the candidate and think they have a chance to win.” He was impressed when he heard that Obama had been president of the Harvard Law Review—“That jumped out at me. It showed he had absolute intelligence”—and even more impressed after meeting him. “He’s got a nice personal touch and the ability to kid around a little bit too,” he said. “He’s got star quality.” Quinn contributed $500 to Obama at The Bond Market Association event, and later made calls to people he knew and asked them to donate money as well.

Robert Harmala, also a big player in Democratic circles and a colleague of Quinn’s at Venable, attended the association’s event as well. He had been invited by Larry Duncan—an African-American lobbyist for Lockheed Martin, a Venable client—who helped Williams organize the affair. Harmala liked what he saw and continued to be impressed by Obama. “There’s a reasonableness about him,” he said. “I don’t see him as being on the liberal fringe. He’s not going to be a parrot for the party line.” Like Quinn, Harmala donated $500 to Obama and made calls to a number of political donors (“Some usual suspects in California whom I’ve worked with before”) and urged them to support Obama’s campaign. Other fund-raisers were soon organized—one at the Four Seasons Hotel, another at a Dupont Circle restaurant, yet another at the Clintons’ home off Embassy Row. “He was hitting his stride. There were people clamoring to help,” said Williams. “It wasn’t just one person who put the events together and it wasn’t all about raising money—people wanted to meet him and talk to him.”

* * *
It’s not always clear what Obama’s financial backers want, but it seems safe to conclude that his campaign contributors are not interested merely in clean government and political reform. And although Obama is by no means a mouthpiece for his funders, it appears that he’s not entirely indifferent to their desires either.

Consider the case of Illinois-based Exelon Corporation, the nation’s leading nuclear-power-plant operator. The firm is Obama’s fourth largest patron, having donated a total of $74,350 to his campaigns. During debate on the 2005 energy bill, Obama helped to vote down an amendment that would have killed vast loan guarantees for power-plant operators to develop new energy projects. The loan guarantees were called “one of the worst provisions in this massive piece of legislation” by Taxpayers for Common Sense and Citizens Against Government Waste; the public will not only pay millions of dollars in loan costs but will risk losing billions of dollars if the companies default.

In one of his earliest votes, Obama joined a bloc of mostly conservative and moderate Senate Democrats who helped pass a G.O.P.-driven class-action “reform” bill. The bill had been long sought by a coalition of business groups and was lobbied for aggressively by financial firms, which constitute Obama’s second biggest single bloc of donors.

Although The Bond Market Association didn’t lobby directly on the legislation, Williams took note of Obama’s vote. “He’s a Democrat, and some people thought he’d do whatever the trial lawyers wanted, but he didn’t do that,” he said. “That’s a testament to his character.” Obama has voted on one bill that was of keen interest to Williams’s members: last year’s hotly contested bankruptcy bill, which made filing for bankruptcy more difficult and gives creditors more recourse to recover debts. Obama voted against the bill, but Williams was pleased that he did side with The Bond Market Association position on a number of provisions. Most were minor technical matters, but he also opposed an important amendment, which was defeated, that would have capped credit-card interest rates at 30 percent. “He studied the issue,” Williams said. “Some assumed he would just go along with consumer advocates, but he voted with us on several points. He understood the issue. He wasn’t closed-minded. A lot of people found that very refreshing.”

* * *
As of this summer, Obama had raised nearly $16 million for his original Senate run and for his 2010 reelection war chest. He has taken in an additional $3.8 million for the Hopefund, his leadership PAC. Such PACs are subject to fewer restrictions on raising and spending money than general campaign funds. Over a six-year term, a senator can raise a maximum of $4,200 per individual donor; the same donor can give as much as $30,000 to the senator’s leadership PAC during that same period. Traditionally, leadership PACs were established by veteran members of Congress, but now they are set up by anyone who hopes to work his or her way up through party ranks. Last year, the Hopefund took in more than any other leadership PAC except for those of Bill Frist, John McCain, and John Kerry, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

In several primaries, Obama’s PAC has given to candidates that have been carefully culled and selected by the Democratic establishment on the basis of their marketability as palatable “moderates”—even when they are facing more progressive and equally viable challengers. Most conspicuously, Obama backed Joe Lieberman over Ned Lamont, his Democratic primary opponent in Connecticut, endorsing him publicly in March and contributing $4,200 to his campaign. The Hopefund also gave $10,000 to Tammy Duckworth, a helicopter pilot in the National Guard who lost both legs in Iraq and who is running for the seat of retiring G.O.P. Congressman Henry Hyde in Chicago’s western suburbs. Despite her support from the party establishment, an enormous fund-raising advantage, and sympathy she had due to her war record, Duckworth won the primary by just 1,100 votes over a vocal war opponent named Christine Cegelis. (When asked about her stand on the Iraq war by a reporter, Duckworth had replied, “There is good and bad in everything.”)

The calibration of Obama’s own political rhetoric has been particularly evident in regard to the war in Iraq. At an antiwar rally in Chicago in October 2002, when Obama was still a state senator, he savaged the Bush Administration for its by then obvious plans to invade. “I don’t oppose all wars,” he said that day. “What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.”

Since taking office, Obama has become far more measured in his position. After Pennsylvania Congressman John Murtha called for withdrawal from Iraq last fall, Obama rejected such a move in a speech before the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations, saying the United States needed “to manage our exit in a responsible way—with the hope of leaving a stable foundation for the future.” His stance won him praise from Washington Post columnist David Broder, the veritable weather vane of political conventional wisdom. Murtha’s was “not a carefully reasoned analysis of the strategic consequences of leaving Iraq,” Broder wrote, whereas Obama was helping his party define “a sensible common ground” and had “pointed the administration and the country toward a realistic and modestly hopeful course on Iraq.” Obama continues to reject any specific timetable for withdrawal from Iraq, even as public opposition to the war grows and as the military rationale for staying becomes less and less apparent.

...On condition of anonymity, one Washington lobbyist I spoke with was willing to point out the obvious: that big donors would not be helping out Obama if they didn’t see him as a “player.” The lobbyist added: “What’s the dollar value of a starry-eyed idealist?”

Obama is anti-establishment compared to Clinton but that would apply to almost any other Democrat who ran.

Underlying the Ted Kennedy endorsement was a fight over which family would be the "establishment" in Democratic politics. If two Clintons were elected president, they might usurp the crown from the Kennedys.

Anti-establishment this time around was Gravel or Kucinich and maybe Edwards because of his PAC/lobbyist stance. Howard Dean in 2004 was anti-estalishment. Clinton I and Carter were if not anti-establishment at least anti-DC candidates.

S Brennan:
Don't cut and paste the whole article next time(Post one papragraph and the link will suffice for the rest). If Ezra gets harassed for copyright violations, he'll know whose ass to kick.

Joe Klein's conscience,

The article has heavily edited, if you read it you'd know that!

I think Ezra is slipping. His arguments have been getting sloppier the past few weeks.

Obama is AS establishment as Clinton?

A two term Pres, a long established, entrenched political machine running from day one, decades old network of connections and practice with the media, Hollywood connections,etc -
and Obama is up there with her because they are both Senators?

Whoa, slow down there.

Very sloppy post.

And...ah Joe,

Ezra has my home number, so let him make the call...K?

What was left of Harold Washington's group helped Obama early on. There was more than one reason he went to work at Miner, Barnhill & Galland. The Daley machine helped him in 2004 and is doing so now. Oprah and David Geffen have some influence in Hollywood.

Obama may not be "the" establishment candidate but he certainly is an establishment candidate.

"An increasingly acrimonious competition between Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton to enlist the Democratic Party's leading fundraisers and operatives burst into the open yesterday" WaPo Cillizza and Balz 2/22/07

Ezra,

Are you getting your blogger talking points from Mark Penn?

While it's certainly possible to cite examples of establishment support for Obama, it's a logical stretch to call him an establishment candidate. Rather than citing a few such Obama connections, no one's tallying up myriad "machine" connections of the Clintons.

It's apples and oranges... both fruits, but quite different. Trying to argue otherwise requires a lot of attempted rationalization.

It just so much feels like Obama's candidacy is being forced upon me. Rebelling against that is becoming a plus for Clinton.

Obama is no Dean but he isn't Clinton, Kerry, Gore, or Mondale. I hope he isn't Carter as well.

I should have been more careful. Obama isn't Senator Clinton. He probably has more DC insider support than Governor Clinton had in 1992 but they are both relying on "locals" to some degree. Even though Axelrod is a local he is more connected than Carville was. (Edwards '04 vs Wofford '91)

Obama 2008 = Clinton 1992 + the internet and $100 million

It just so much feels like Obama's candidacy is being forced upon me. Rebelling against that is becoming a plus for Clinton.

There's more than a few of us who feel the converse is true as well.

LOL @ Obama supporters.

Anytime ANYONE says ANYTHING even slightly critical of Obama, the gloves come off, and accusations of bias start flying.

Get a damn grip already.

Governors are often able to escape the "establishment" label simply because they don't live here,..

Ahem..the pundit class might well tend to that same escape clause as an operative caveat.
It may well be that the best intended, the most resistant
nonetheless and invariably go thrall to the poisonous pink cloud which is the Establishment.... there.

I think that.
[bolds, mine]

Immediate v.s.... attribution here.
Forgot. Sorry.

I see Obama as the permanent DC "Establishment" candidate (which covers Congresspeople in both parties, the media and pundits, etc) while Clinton i see as a nationwide "machine" candidate (one wholly made up of Clinton people past, present, and future).

Don't forget --DC still hasn't accepted Hillary--or Bill--as legitimate or valid at all.

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