HAVING NUNN OF IT.
There's been some talk of Barack Obama choosing former Georgia Senator Sam Nunn for vice president. Nunn has lots to recommend him. For one thing, he's quite old. He'll make McCain look vibrant. For another, he's got the charisma of a saltine cracker. He's a conservative Democrat who voted against the 1993 Budget Bill, has no history of progressive social policy leadership, and carries a god-awful record on gay rights. So awful, in fact, that Rep. Barney Frank said he couldn't support the ticket if Nunn was on it. Additionally, Nunn has served on the boards of Chevron and General Electric, so he's got corporate experience. All in all, a great pick. Just ask the folks at Having Nunn of It.
Update: It's worth saying that Nunn has amassed an incredibly impressive record on nuclear proliferation issues. Which is why he might make a good Secretary of Nuclear Non-Proliferation, if Obama wanted to create such a position. One could even see him as Secretary of Defense. But not vice president.
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COMMENTS (27)
Its Hillary...there's no need to guess.
Posted by: Anonymous | June 20, 2008 7:59 PM
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Posted by: Just Saying | June 20, 2008 8:04 PM
Forgetting all the idealogical stuff for a minute, Nunn simply seems like an odd choice in terms of him exiting the American people. Sure, I get why political geeks like yourself or Bowers find him to be a good choice, but middle America? Why would they? This is up there with Sebelius, Murray and other choices. I don't get it on the "wow I am excited to here about that team" level.
Posted by: akaison | June 20, 2008 8:31 PM
Who's this "Brad Schweitzer" guy that Having Nunn of It prefers?
Posted by: Anonymous | June 20, 2008 9:01 PM
I don't get the point of Sam Nunn as VP...if you want to balance the ticket in that way--i.e. pick a more hawkish moderate graybeard--there's a guy named Joseph Biden who delivers the same goods but doesn't have a history of bigotry. And Biden's far more dynamic and well-known than Sam Nunn.
Posted by: Lev | June 20, 2008 9:19 PM
akaison, when you say Murray, do you mean Patty Murray?
I've not heard that one. She's an OK Senator (her anti AUF speech was perhaps her best moment), but if that is who you are referring too, I've never heard anything.
And, I'll add, she would be a disastrous choice for VP for a variety of reasons, although her stance on issues is generally OK>
Posted by: abject funk | June 20, 2008 9:21 PM
But Nunn won the David Broder primary.
Posted by: Sir Charles | June 20, 2008 9:23 PM
yeah her. I don't dislike her. I just don't get the choice of picking her. The same is true of several choices such as Sebelius. This is going to sound crass but why choose the farm team when you are in the world series? this isn't about elevating anyone. it's about them adding to obama. i want to know how these folks add something or even reinforce something in the sense people will know- Oh yeah, that Pat Murray she's known for being a unifier rather than them saying "Pat who?"
Posted by: akaison | June 20, 2008 9:46 PM
Anonymous:
It's Brian Schweitzer. The governor of Montana.
Posted by: Joe Klein's conscience | June 20, 2008 10:17 PM
I think it could be Schweitzer as well. He'd do a great deal of good for the ticket in Colorado. I just have this feeling that Virginia's a much better state for Obama than Colorado.
So if the pick is going to be one that is designed to try to deliver a particular state or region, then I'd say it's better to try to shore up the Mountain West than Virginia, which I think Obama will win fairly easily.
There's also an opportunity to turn Virginia deep blue if Warner joins Webb in the Senate, and Kaine stays in the Governor's mansion. Locking that state up and making it reliably Democratic would be a huge boon to the party.
Posted by: Dismayed Liberal | June 20, 2008 11:02 PM
Nunn is on the list of recommendations that the Congressional Black Caucus gave to the VP search team.
Posted by: Anthony | June 20, 2008 11:08 PM
Hey, I don't want Nunn either, but let's try to remain reality-based. How does a guy born in 1938 make a guy born in 1936 (and probably in worse shape) look "vibrant"?
Posted by: KCinDC | June 21, 2008 12:21 AM
Nunn is ballast on the veepstakes list.
Dismayed Liberal: Virginia will never be "deep blue" because too much of downstate is as deep red as the Deep South.
Northern Virginia's growth and tilt toward Democrats has blued VA in recent statewide elections. But eight of its 11 House members are Republicans; four are locks and two are probables for re-election.
Despite GOP gerrymandering, Democrats took the state Senate last year and may be able to take the House of Delegates in 2009. If so, they can net an extra congressional seat after reapportionment. But it's hard to envision a map without at least five Republican congressional districts.
Gov. Kaine, limited to one term, leaves office at the end of 2009. The Democrats' prospects for keeping the governor's office probably ride on the outcome a special session of the legislature next week, called to address a deadlock in road-building and transportation funding.
Posted by: allbetsareoff | June 21, 2008 12:25 AM
Sam Nunn? I wouldn't be at all surprised.
And here's why.
Posted by: David Ehrenstein | June 21, 2008 12:37 AM
Harold Stassen and Samn Nunn both has the same chances of VP. People need to learn the difference between a float to get free local press and a trial balloon to test a novel idea.
Posted by: joejoejoe | June 21, 2008 3:02 AM
Since Barack has made himself and his campaign a personal 527 group, he should pick George Soros as his VEEP.
No reason to any longer pretend he's rising above petty politics and bickering.
If he couldn't sit down with John McCain and work things out (MCCain clearly demonstrated he was the most bi-partisan politician on campaign finance reform) just who would Barack be able to sit with and negotiate?
Even Feingold wasn't buying Baracks excuses and saw right through the Obama con.
Posted by: Sweetie | June 21, 2008 4:49 AM
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Posted by: Sahil Singh | June 21, 2008 5:02 AM
I don't pretend to know who Obama will pick for VEEP.
But I also didn't understand why he wants to spend money to give kids with asthma breadthalyzer tests; nor did I understand his position on Jerusalem; nor did I understand why he needs Arabic interpreters in Iraq moved to Afghanistan.
This guys thinks on a whole new level....
Posted by: Anonymous | June 21, 2008 7:03 AM
I think gays and seamen don't mix.
Posted by: Sam Nunn | June 21, 2008 7:37 AM
We know what you think.
Posted by: Mr. Burns | June 21, 2008 7:38 AM
Lev: ""Joseph Biden who delivers the same goods but doesn't have a history of bigotry"""
Wow, you make bigger gaffes then Obama.
Biden and his Indian bigotry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM19YOqs7hU
Ohh yes, we are all 7-11 and Donuts shop clerks don't ya know.
Of course Biden also noted how Senator Barack Obama, was “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.”
As opposed to the dumb and dirty African Americans that ran before him.
Then their was the antigay bigoted Biden who admitted he feared his son might be gay...as if being gay is somehow a bad thing:
Joe Biden tells the students at Princeton assembled about a campus tour he took with his son and a young coed: "This magnificently attractive, intellectually and physically beautiful young girl, was a sophomore, was showing us around,a nd I figured, man we got a lock now. My son is gonna really be interested, and, I know, senators aren't supposed to say things like that but, ah, if he hadn't been interested, I would have been worried."
yeah, non-bigotted biden...right...
Posted by: Whalid | June 21, 2008 7:56 AM
I've never been a Biden fan, if you're going to pick someone with extremely conservative views, he should just pick Hillary. At least she's somewhat better on some of the more peripheral (to me) issues.
The American people don't know who Sam Nunn and Joe Biden are. They won't excite anyone, and they won't reassure anyone.
Posted by: soullite | June 21, 2008 9:09 AM
Soullite hits on the point I keep making. When you think about it in non-political geek terms or Wasthing CW think, there is only a small list of people who will build on Obama's electoral chances. Clinton is probably one (although apparently one poll says she hurts with indies), Edwards another. From there, you have second tier choices such as Wesley Clark or the other military men. Webb, however, do to his women issue sis out. After that, I don't see how it matters at all except to political geeks or washington type trading white papers.
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Posted by: Kyle | June 21, 2008 12:36 PM
People who are not as old as dust don't remember Sam Nunn. Those who do will remember his nasty temperament. He's got some kind of problem with the pro-Israel crowd, and Obama doesn't need that. Why resurrect this mummy? Ridiculous. Biden, Webb, a number of others would bring foreign policy credibility.
Posted by: one of many | June 22, 2008 8:40 AM
Nunn is on the list of recommendations that the Congressional Black Caucus gave to the VP search team.
Really? The Black Caucus approves of somebody who supported George Wallace for president in '72?
Posted by: rea | June 23, 2008 4:45 AM