Hmmm... *shrug*

RIP

This news truly breaks my heart.

Wow, sudden. The guy had some very good interviews, I'll give him that. Along with the Cheney interview, I'd say his 2004 Bush interview really exposed the President as a shallow fraud.

He also had some really irritating ones, but hey, time for criticism is probably not now.

Love the last few sentences on Russert. What a loss.
R.I.P

You can relax Ezra, I am sure you were in now way responsible for the stress in Tims' life...I mean, not like Keith Olberrmann.

My wife commented last week about Tims' looks saying he didn't look well...I remembered hearing how he was struggled with the chuckleheads at MSNBC over what real news and not cheerleading for the Obama campaign.

Odd, isn't it, the impulse to say nice things about people when they die? I'd bet about 90% of this blog's readership had a low opinion of Russert. Ezra Klein has a low opinion of Russert. Yet when he writes about Russert, he writes about one interview where Russert was skeptical, and does not mention that Tim Russert was Dick Cheney's favorite medium for getting the message out.

I didn't like Tim Russert when he was alive, and now that he's at room temperature, I still don't.

Vidor:My feeling on the whole matter, is that Russert was really good at what he did. That what he did is something that I despised is something else. What the important thing is, at least for me, is that he didn't create the game, and there's no need to keep up the ire at this point.

Just my opinion

Damn, the one non-Fox show where I could control the message.

Vidor, don't act like a conservative! Act like a librul, love everyone!

Maybe, as Karmakin says, Russert didn't invent the game, but he certainly was in a position to dictate how the game was played. That he played it as he did, whether because his personal limitations didn't allow him to be transcendant or whether he just chose to take the easier, and possibly more lucrative way out, in neither case is he deserving of praise. This was the man, remember, who took the position that the powerful figures he interviewed were presumptively off the record. He was in the game to serve and profit from those powerful people. He wasn't in it for us.

As for whether it's appropriate to speak ill of the dead, whatever. If he were Joe the barber, nobody in the blogosphere would give a damn about him. He was who he was, though, and it's silly to expect people who were insulted by his abuse of a powerful and influential position to sit on their hands and type nothing at his passing.

Vidor: I get your point, and my personal philosophy is, about the dead, if you have nothing good to say then say nothing. But the fact is unlike alot of the other hacks around Russert, while not a standard of journalistic excellence was entertaining, and seemingly tried his best to be unbiased and 'hard hitting'. In the end he was harmless (sorta like Chris Matthews).

Now when Bill O'Reilly bites the big one, I'll be saying this....................................................................................................................

Here's the question: Who should replace him?

"I didn't like Tim Russert when he was alive, and now that he's at room temperature, I still don't."

Why wouldn't you like the guy who, at the bidding of his bosses, single-handedly created the Social Security "crisis".

Why wouldn't you like the guy who, outside of Floridia's elected officials, had the biggest impact on electing George Bush President in 2000?

"I'd bet about 90% of this blog's readership had a low opinion of Russert. Ezra Klein has a low opinion of Russert. Yet when he writes about Russert, he writes about one interview where Russert was skeptical, and does not mention that Tim Russert was Dick Cheney's favorite medium for getting the message out."

Ezra wants to get back on the teevee. And that means sucking up to General Electric.

There's a reason that text message was private, not blogged. When G.E. says, "jump", Ezra says, "how high?"

Why do folks think Ezra was willing to cravenly walk away from universal healthcare in the first place?

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Call things what they are. Tim Russert was a malignant force on American politics, and the nation is better off with him off the stage. And Ezra Klein is a simpering suck-up with no higher motivation that the furtherance of his own career.

Oh my. It seems I'm somewhat in accord with Petey here. I'm going to have to rethink my remarks.

Watching Petey struggle for insults for someone who doesn't have a trust fund is depressing.

Here's the question: Who should replace him?

Posted by: Teethwriter | June 13, 2008 4:34 PM

Precisely. The problem with this is that as bad as Russert was you could expect him to ply his 'gotcha'-style journalism with everyone. Who knows what two-bit hack, or low-rent flunkie they'll stick in his chair now.

All the same, may the man RIP. The problems we're left with are no longer his to trifle with.

It was a lucrative job, Ezra, not some kind of sacrifice to the greater good of american politics as you portray it.

And furthermore, he was so ego driven and tied up in his ridiculous "gotcha" quotes game that I had zero respect for the man as a journalist.

It's sad to see anyone go relatively young and I hope his family is able to get through the grieving ok. But to suddenly lionize the man for his work, when it was obviously subpar and a malignant tumor on american political coverage is absurd in the extreme.

Tact is one thing, revisionary history is another.

Rachel Maddow for MTP anchor!

"If the press had been as skeptical and aggressive in the run-up to the war as Russert was on that morning, sitting next to the vice president, we never would have invaded Iraq."

Your kidding right.
MR. RUSSERT: September 11—when you hear those words, “9/11” what are your thoughts?
MR. RUSSERT: Leading up this September 11, 2002, are we hearing an increase in chatter? Are intelligence folks picking up conversations amongst the al-Qaeda cells around the world?
What, specifically, has he obtained that you believe would enhance his nuclear development program?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: Who did the anthrax attack last fall, Tim? We don’t know.
MR. RUSSERT: Could it have been Saddam?

My apologies to Ezra for this... :-)
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This heart-attack story sounds a little fishy to me. It was probably the "acid-tip" that did him in.

It's too late to apologize. It's too late.

this sucks for his family/friends I'm sure, but personally speaking--good riddance. we won't miss you, Tim.

Vidor -
Shame on you. Like him or not, Tim Russert was a human being who strove to achieve good and to inspire it in those around him. To write such needlessly hurtful things within hours of his untimely demise truly marks you as one sorry S.O.B. Good luck having a moticum of meaning in this life.

Tim russert was scum. He was pretty much the epitome of everything that is wrong with journalism today. He had no interest in journalism, and only cared about gossip. He thought what people believed in 1968 was more important than what they believe in 2008. He bent over backwards to treat Republicans with kid gloves and attempted to murder the career of any Democrat whoever went on his shows. He was, without a doubt, the most consistently inane and horrible debate moderator on television. He was so sure of his own self-importance that he never took any criticism to heart. So no, he didn't deserve to be debated with respect. He doesn't deserve to be mourned by America, and this isn't a sad day for the nation. It's a sad day for his family, and his friends. For the rest of us, lets hope this helps us turn a page in journalistic history.

I don't care about his job or how he did it. I wasn't a fan but that doesn't stop me from being respectful, you fucking children. To use the occasion of a person's death to launch ad hominem attacks on the dead or someone who writes a thoughtful - and still honest and critical - piece on the dead shows no motherfucking class. That's right, I just motherfucked your classlessness.

Petey, you're a parasite on this and Yglesias' blog. Pitch a tent at no quarter and go the fuck away.

More tough questions:

MR. RUSSERT: So Saddam’s more dangerous than North Korea or Iran?
MR. RUSSERT: We have just a minute in this segment. Will militarily this be a cakewalk?

What a classy bunch here at ezraklein.com

I must say, though ... having just read the Wonkette twitter, it's pretty funny.

Russert was no delicate flower; he was brawler. At most I can imagine him chuckling, then moving on.

Tim Russert was an uber mensch and a class act. Watching him cut a phony politician to ribbons was like watching a skilled surgeon at work. Now Russert belongs to the ages.

I can say, with the same certainty as Petey for all his claims, that Petey fucks goats.

And in the meantime, do the Catholic thing and wait till the wake before you start cussing out the deceased.

Oh my god, late to the party here, but the Ezra suck-up (as opposed to the lack of commenting/live-and-let-die at most other prog-blogs) is creepy.

I won't repeat my MY comments, but suffice to say Chris Matthews just noted Russert did indeed support the Iraq war, and because of their Scary Nukes.

Sucks for the family, especially now that is seems they're still in Italy, but if it's Sunday, it's now better.

I think Tim Russert was a nice, friendly, and gregarious person. Whatever else, I will miss him because I think our world - and the political world - could use more of the positive energy he brought to it.

That said, I don't think now is the time to overstate his role in political media. He dominated the market because he sat in the Sunday talk show catbird seat - Meet The Press dominated the business long before him and will after. He was not, really, a great interviewer, and his "best" interviews are remembered, I think more for their "gotcha" moments than for their overall depth... because they weren't especially deep. Brinkley, I think, was the gold standard of interviews in that he really knew how to follow up. Russert, really, never did. No, I think what Russert was best at 0- and di too rarely - was pulling in the DC cocktail circuit to chat it up like they would over dinner - Carville and Matalin, panels with Broder and Ifill and Kate O'Beirne... he knew how to get the conversation going and keep it lively. Even then, though, his reliance on exceedingly conventional wisdom made for precious little insight. And I don't think one can separate the failures of MSNBC from him - as Washington Bureau Chief, he had considerable weight in staffing decisions.

It will be interesting to see who gets the chair... it won't be the same. But clearly, they could do worse (especially by moving up an MSNBC person).

Idiots think 'respect' is more important than 'truth'. You really do belong in the same category Russert does. An idiot who thinks politeness is the same as decency. They aren't even close to the same, but you can keep on believing otherwise, ignoring the later in favor of the former.

As Alexander Cockburn said of James Reston, "Life will be the same without him".

Presumably, he's up somewhere beyond the cloudline, hectoring God about His inconsistencies. "But Lord, in Exodus 6:12, you clearly said..."

Best line of the night.

Cheers, Tim. I'll miss you.

After he pursued Mrs. Clinton about drivers' licenses for illegal immigrants, the Clintons set up a hue and cry, and many in the blogosphere responded like sheep, bleating the same stuff. That's why Ezra had reservations about his journalism.

It is deeply distressing that the cynical would speak ill of the Dead on some websites including this one. Please reconsider this hardheartedness at a moment when partisan games should cease. I fervently urge all Catholics here to join me and many others in a novena for the repose of the soul of Timothy Russert, beginning now wherever you may be in the world. Pray the Rosary throughout each day as you are able. I encourage you to add the Fatima Prayer after every decade. Please bear witness in postings on this and other websites as you are able.

Can we please all grow up and stop with the hyperbole regarding one journalists role in the run up to the war?

If only Russert had put his foot down we would have finally found that world peace we've been waiting for for so long!!

Can we finally all just realize that the first few years that followed 9/11 and the anthrax attacks was a distinctly destabilizing moment for the nation's psyche.

No one person created the larger thought pattern of fear that brought us into Iraq. That's why their were so many reasons given. There wasn't a cohesive rational invading. (Yes there were ideological reasons, via the neocons and economic, via oil, and israel 's in there too). But basically a majority of people in this country wanted wars. Not war (Afganistan), they wanted WARS! Bush wanted this war on a gut level. He knew he fucked up by allowing the country to be attacked and he needed to prove to himself and history that he was a LEADER. The press was scared like many of us. They're human. They fell in line.

America had not been attacked since 1812. Our entire sense of reality was shook. This same sense of shock will not repeat itself. Even a nuke wouldn't do it.

Anyway, my point is that while the media did not do an adequate job of weighing the pros and cons (they actually did more than they get credit for) it was, in the end, simple human nature that brought us there. We collectively thought our nation was impervious. 9/11 shattered that, some thought (not me by the way) the way to get our imperviousness back would be to demonstrate our military might. So get over how evil the media is, this system is evolving and getting better over time. Its flaws do not rest in one person's hand.

You're all a bunch of pathetic sorry ass people. TIM RUSSERT WAS GOD!

Well said. It so much was not one person. But that's also true of Bush. He allowed our nation to be attacked? Most of it was planned during the Clinton years, and bin Laden has said himself that he was emboldened by the weak response to the Cole, embassy bombings, etc. It was not only Bush, and prob. not mainly Bush, if you want to blame a president.

"Watching Petey struggle for insults for someone who doesn't have a trust fund is depressing."

I agree that the difference between Yglesias and Klein is the trust fund.

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I think we all know that Russert is moderating a show in Hell now.

The difference between Russert and Klein is that Russert at least had the sense to whore himself out for a house in Nantucket and good tickets to the Nationals. Klein whores himself out for a much cheaper price.

Too bad Ezra isn't pretty enough to get Jack Welch as his john.

"The problem with this is that as bad as Russert was you could expect him to ply his 'gotcha'-style journalism with everyone. Who knows what two-bit hack, or low-rent flunkie they'll stick in his chair now."

The problem with Russert wasn't the "gotcha - style journalism" that the faux lefty "career Dems" like Klein criticize him for.

The problem with Russert is that he was representing General Electric in their decades long jihad against the social insurance programs like Social Security and universal healthcare that General Electric desires to destroy for the profit on their component businesses.

Ezra is a scumbag because he's willing to sell out those social insurance programs just as long as GE puts him back on the teevee.

I remember Lawrence Spivak and the days when "Meet the Press" had a 'panel of Washington Journalists' that usually tilted right (It was there I learned to hate Bob Novak, wondering at age 12 "what's wrong with that man?") It truly was more of a Village/Establishment enterprise, where the questions were often softball.
I feel "Meet the Press" could use the Moderator/Journalist format; and get real journalists, not Broders.

And Russert is fortunate got out before the Truth and Reconciliation Commission started going. If you want a systematic dismantling of the 'Timmy' persona of 'regular guy asks Great Men questions' go to Bob Somerby, and look up some of his rants about Nantucket Mansions, and self congratulation masquerading as a love letter to one's father. It's a pity that he will forever be tarnished by his double game in the Plame case, as a subject of the investigation who abetted obstruction of justice while pretending to be a disinterested journalist.

"The message was written during one of the debates, and it was an obscene comment (that was an inside joke, but still) that expressed, err, displeasure with his moderation."

Classy inside joke. Really.

There's a reason that text message was private, not blogged. When G.E. says, "jump", Ezra says, "how high?"

No, it's because Ezra has a modicum of class.

No offense, Ezra, but Tim Russert didn't know or care what you thought of him. What makes you think he even read about your text message?

And the heavenly inquistion will go the other way: "Mister Russert, in Exodus 20:16, I said 'Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.' Let's go to the first screen."

The comments here have been an interesting window into the soul, heart and minds of the commentors.

What a cramped, petty, small, view of the world some of you have.

Wow, if so many of you are unable to let off the partisan bitterness for just one minute to show a little restraint and human decency towards someone who's just died, then a bunch of you may end up going early through heart attacks too. Think about it.

Russert was an uber mensch and a class act. Watching him cut a phony politician to ribbons....seth

Russert showed what an establishment tool he was when he said that he 'considered his chats with sources all off-the-record unless put on record, the opposite of what a real journalist would do.

This is not speaking 'ill' of the dead, only pointing out that he, and almost all, of the American news media whores today, regard it as their job to misinform the viewer and reader with the propaganda that the country's ruling class wants to promulgate. I used to just think the media was incompetent and slanted. It's not. They know exactly what they are doing. The American media (with very few exceptions like Helen Thomas) is the enemy of the American people.

....Ezra is a scumbag because he's willing to sell out those social insurance programs .... Petey

....you may end up going early through heart attacks too. Think about it. Chris O.

Wow, that was a really asinine thing you said about him. I mean, you really ought to feel a lot of guilt.

Hopefully, in 25 yrs or so, when you examine your career--or the aggregation of pixelated opinion (and not an ounce of reporting, natch)that is your so-called career, you will feel really, really bad.

But I doubt it.

I have total sympathy for Russert and his years and his friends/family.

I'll leave it to another day to fully dissect why his journalism was no service to the nation. I recall his smirking UFO question to try and kill Kucinich's candidacy.

And striking the hours of NBC time devoted to him yet no time can be found for a story on the pentagon using networks like NBC to deliver their propaganda.

Anyway, RIP Mr. Russert.

Ezra, Tim Russert went to his grave thinking you're a complete moron, a kindergartener who doesn't deserve the slightest consideration as a political thinker. Deep down, you know that. That's why you feel bad.

You wished you could've apologized? I'd have love to have read that "apology." I'm sure it would have been one of those classic "if somehow you were offended by this private message taken out of context..." types of apologies. You've got a great career ahead of you, kid. Maybe someday they'll let you sweep up shrimp tails off the Meet the Press set.

"America had not been attacked since 1812."..Dana

December 7, 1941? They made a movie about it with Ben Affleck..

Anywho, I liked Russert and I say RIP and God bless his family and loved ones. I thought he was a remnant of a different era when you could have interviews and debates without screaming and hurling invectives. But, evidently, unless you turn a nice shade of Keith Olbermann-red and espouse a particular political view point at all times, you're a hack. /shrug

So, Russert was horrible because he worked for GE and made some cash in his life? He was automatically a tool for the Dark Lord? Nice. Very droll. Does remind of this quote though.

"Let me explain to you how this works: you see, the corporations finance Team America, and then Team America goes out... and the corporations sit there in their... in their corporation buildings, and... and, and see, they're all corporation-y... and they make money"

Many of you leftists have no humanity at all. Russert was a fine man according to everyone who knew him, but you hate him because he wasn't a foaming at the mouth radical like Keith Olbermann. May God grant you maturity and perspective some day.

There's something very wrong with people who say such terrible things about a person right after hearing they've passed away. Terribly wrong.

But strangely, you leftist don't seem to grasp that Russert was a liberal. Perhaps because he made efforts not to be completely tone deaf to conservative arguments and tried to be tough, but fair, with every person he interviewed, regardless of their political affiliation, that made him unacceptable to the fringe fanatics. Pathetic you are.

Not that I don't think his death is tragic, it is, but the fact that there are lunatics in cyberspace that like to step over the line and offend people
(see above) shouldn't over-shine the point that Russert was far from the bastion of American media he's been turned into postmortem.

When he brought up the "pledge of allegiance" rumor to Axelrod in late April, months after it had already been widely debunked, was the last straw for me.

Normally I'd agree that a persons death is not the time to critique them, but this discussion is never going to come up again, so people may as well hash it out now.

To change the subject:

If Russert was even half the man that TV commentators made him out to be, he would have been shocked at the amount of air time NBC and MSMBC gave to his death. Way over the top, and eventually a very entended plug for NBC news.

NBC and MSNBC should now do
some shows on coronary heart disease, and explain why Russert died. One would think that he had the best medical care money could buy. Was he not following his doctors' advice?

It is absolutely true that the Left has no humanity and that if they have their way mankind will be utterly destroyed. Notice that I call for prayers for the Dead even though I know that Russert was politically one of these Leftist destroyers and that he was a horrible excuse for a Catholic being one of those "cafeteria" Catholics picking and choosing what part of the Truth he wanted to uphold. Those things don't matter once he has died. What does matter is that Catholics pray for his immortal soul. We would and indeed we must do the same for all other Catholics regardless of how terrible their lives were.

It is absolutely true that the Left has no humanity and that if they have their way mankind will be utterly destroyed because of their insane ideologies. Notice that I reverently call for prayers for the Dead even though I know that Russert was one of these Leftist destroyers of mankind and that he was a horrible excuse for a Catholic, a "cafeteria" Catholic picking and choosing what part of the Truth he wanted to uphold. Those things however don't matter once he has died. What does matter is that Catholics pray for his immortal soul. We would and indeed we must do the same for all other Catholics regardless of how terrible their lives were.

Tim russert was scum.

That was neither polite nor decent, you ass.

You want to know why so many people, despite their best interests, hate liberals and think they are elitists and condescending who accept nothing other than their idea of human perfection? Becuase it's all true.

I love liberalism, I love progressive ideas, and I love a great many liberals, but you self-righteous, arrogant egomaniacs who despise Tim Russert for his human faults, for his not always taking a hard liberal line, for a few foolish comments and bad interviews here and there are moronic and the reason why liberal causes constantly fail to gain ground in this country.

The media will never be dominated by the likes of the Nation, and it shouldn't be. Yes, it needs to be more critical of empty viewpoints and it needs to stop promoting these "gotcha" soundbite moments and present information, but you cannot eat everyone in the media alive. Like it or not, Tim Russert was one of the most fair, calm and even-handed people in television news; he was astitute and relatively unbiased. You may have had your qualms with him, but so did conservatives, and that makes him good. Or at least, you should admit, better than most. He was a good newsman and a good person, but even if you disagree:

Pick your battles. There are much worse people in the media, and when you not only criticize but demonize everyone you alientate everyone who sympathized with them, and you lose elections. So shut up, get over yourselves, and show some descency.

It's not Russert that many people are going after but the incessant and self-absorbed media huzzahs in a time when the press corps failed their duty to America. Why would Dick Cheney think of MTP as a great place top pimp his lies?

Hours devoted to Russert's death and none devoted to the Pentagon manipulation of the same media. Something be wrong.

Having your entire life and your response to every experience dictated by hard ideological considerations is truly pathetic. What is totalitarianism but an outlook governed by ideology in every part of life? To spit hateful venom towards a relatively harmless person like Tim Russert speaks to a willingness to overestimate the power and importance of the media. The country after 9/11/01 was unhinged and descended into a mob mentality that an ideological movement exploited. To fight that ideology with a similarly contrived set of final answers is equally unhinged. Lay off Russert: the man just died. He wasn't especially gifted either as a reporter or as a television interviewer, but to transfer responsibility of the crimes of the past few years from the administration and the American people who supported it to Tim Russert is nothing short of pathetic.

Then so is the attempt by the media to deify the man for the same reasons. And to open a discussion of what that means in a country that believes too much in the media. To quote Kolchack, "It's NEWS, Vincenzo." And Russert would have understood.

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