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Momma said wonk you out

A CALL FOR CLARITY.

Is it weird that I far prefer parts of the Barack Obama of Andy McCarthy's fevered imagination to the one we actually have? I mean, it would be nice if he actually wanted to nationalize health care. Instead he just wants to do some tinkering.

Meanwhile, it would be useful if conservatives were a little clearer on what "surrender" entails. It's not obvious to me what McCarthy is talking about when he says Obama would "surrender to terrorists," but he presumably doesn't have documented instance of Obama drawing up legislation that would see America formally submit to al Qaeda and install Osama bin Laden atop our governance structure. That doesn't seem like the sort of scoop McCarthy would keep a secret. Meanwhile, earlier today McCarthy called Obama a "terrorist sympathizer," and it's unclear how you surrender to your allies. Is Obama trying to surrender to himself? It's all very confusing.



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You asked for this down below.
You had to play poke-the-loony, didn't you?
Serves you right.

...he presumably doesn't have documented instance of Obama drawing up legislation that would see America formally submit to al Qaeda and install Osama bin Laden atop our governance structure.

Good one, Ezra, LOL.

And, could ol' OBL possibly do a worse job?

I remember when he wanted the nomination and declared that he would pull out of Iraq in 16 mos regardless of the consequences.

*Then*, after he got the nomination and wanted the independents, he modified (changed...change he believed in) his postion to whatever the independents wanted to hear.

So, we really don't know what Obama would do and that's the scary part.

You're right, El V, since Obama shifts about a bit in some blatant political electioneering, we cannot at all be certain that he won't don a turban, reveal himself to the the 13th Imam, and submit to the rule of the Caliphate.

You twit.

we cannot at all be certain that he won't don a turban, reveal himself to the the 13th Imam, and submit to the rule of the Caliphate.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

obama still wants to pull out of iraq in 16 months. no change whatsoever.

Both Pierce and Berube weigh in? This comment thread FTW!

Conservative David Brooks on Barack Obama -
"Obama has the great intellect. I was interviewing Obama a couple years ago, and I'm getting nowhere with the interview, it's late in the night, he's on the phone, walking off the Senate floor, he's cranky. Out of the blue I say, 'Ever read a guy named Reinhold Niebuhr?' And he says, 'Yeah.' So i say, 'What did Niebuhr mean to you?' For the next 20 minutes, he gave me a perfect description of Reinhold Niebuhr's thought, which is a very subtle thought process based on the idea that you have to use power while it corrupts you. And I was dazzled, I felt the tingle up my knee as Chris Matthews would say.


And the other thing that does separate Obama from just a pure intellectual: he has tremendous powers of social perception. And this is why he's a politician, not an academic. A couple of years ago, I was writing columns attacking the Republican congress for spending too much money. And I throw in a few sentences attacking the Democrats to make myself feel better. And one morning I get an email from Obama saying, 'David, if you wanna attack us, fine, but you're only throwing in those sentences to make yourself feel better.' And it was a perfect description of what was going through my mind. And everybody who knows Obama all have these stories to tell about his capacity for social perception.


Brooks predicted an Obama victory by nine points, and said that although he found Obama to be "a very mediocre senator," he was is surrounded by what Brooks called "by far the most impressive people in the Democratic party."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/08/david-brooks-sarah-palin_n_133001.html

Obviously the plan is to have America formally surrender to Barack Hussein Al-Obama (perhaps thru some kind of "inauguration" ceremony) and then install him on top of the governance structure, as Osama's Chief Lieutenant for US Domestic Affairs. Simple.

My knowledge of Islam is a bit shifty, but isn't the Caliphate generally a Sunni idea and the 13th Imam generally Shia? I know that James was joking - but is this another dig at the McCainiac inability to distinguish Shia and Sunni?

Clarence

"Because Obama shifts about a bit in some blatant political electioneering, we cannot at all be certain that he won't don a turban, reveal himself to the the 13th Imam, and submit to the rule of the Caliphate."

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