Obama is an "elitist". So says the down-to-earth middle class lady, from the White House, Chappaqua, and Nantucket.

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Clinton is attaching Republican campaign tactics in the above quote while Obama was attacking voters. There is a big difference.

You know what's sad?
This is the same tactic the right wingers always employed whenever we raised valid points about George W. Bush.
It's the old "But, but Clinton". Google it.
Somehow, if your favorite guy in the world screws up, you can exonerate him if you spend a week sorting through Lexis and you find a Bill Clinton quote that you can twist into the same meaning as the gaffe your guy just made.
What a bunch of jokers.
They really "cling" to Obama too much and it warps their brains.

The most laughable thing about all of this is that it doesn't appear to be having any impact at all. A lot of rich pundits are sitting around trying to convince working people that this is terrible. But working people don't really seem to care.

It really looks like the elite are scared of what he said because it's true and they want to push it outside of acceptable debate.

And even when Obama attacks campaign tactics, he attacks those of both parties.

As is also the case when he attacks government policy: "“And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration..." As if the folks he's talking about hadn't been far better off under the Clinton administration before Bush pulled the rug out.

Feh. What a great boon to Democrats Obama is.

It's precisely his choice of words that's the problem. As much as I'd like to agree with soullite this is simply an effort by the ptb to marginalize the Thomas Frankian message at the core of his comments, the truth is that any non-Hillary-supporting Dem with any political sense cringed when s/he saw those comments. Sadly, had he said when he actually wanted to say, we never would've heard about the remarks. It's one thing to say the corporate-sponsored rightwingers use social issues to exploit people's fears and economic anxieties, quite another to say Americans cling to God and guns because of they're bitter and still another to lump ostensibly good things (God, guns, and opposition to free trade) in with manifestly bad things (anti-immigrant and anti-other sentiment.) I have no doubt that he was trying to get at an important truth, but he didn't get there, not even close. Words matter.

And minus the word "cling," which is what really kills Obama on this one.

In an Answer to a Question about small-town America Barack answered, although tired, in earnest and with thoughtfullness: "You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone...And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." What Barack meant in Essence -- which is the Clear-Cold Truth, unlike Hillary's Bosnia Fabrication and Continuing Performances, is that in General, Small-town America, due to a loss of jobs producing frustration and bitterness and with time on their hands, similarly to the Negros in Slavery time, who turned to Religion & Music for an outlet, small-town Americans turn to Religion, Hunting and yes, some blame the current conditions on Immigrants when they should be turning their blame on Politicians who allow employers to higher immigrants for a much lower wage than Americans would go for. He never said religion or hunting (music) were bad, because people tun to them for an outlet when they have lost hope in their government and with extra time on their hands in a way to channel their frustration and bitterness. The Wording could have been better, however I am sure this was due to Barack being tired and on the campaign trail for over 15 months. What he could have said instead, which are synonyms for bitter are that People are Resentful, experiencing Pain, and Prolonged Discomfort, due to harsh and painful economic conditions. However, the fact that McCain, Clinton and others are trying to take a poor choice of words and to make nothing into something-- blowing it out of proportion -- and playing politics as usual, is despicable in an atttempt to get you to see things not as they are but as distortion. People in small-town America have experienced a loss of jobs in a greater degree and opportunity than Cities and suburban America, with very little to look forward to and time on their hands other than to go to church, hunt, and visit their local taverns, and for the young, many join the Military, and so many small town Americans have become bitter and disillusioned. Obama never stated that it was wrong that they turned to Religion and Guns due to time on their hands and/or a loss of hope, culture, plays, theaters, etc., they for an outlet turned to religion and guns.

In a larger picture, people in general all over America, are bitter over high gas prices, increased food prices, loss of jobs and hope, high education costs, increased mortgage costs and foreclosure, loss of jobs that leave the country and move to India and/or China, and as hard as it is to say, some people are bitter over immigration and the loss of jobs due to companies hiring immigrants for a much lower wage than Americans would go for -- in an America that does not resemble the one we used to know and believe in. We have even lost the respect and admiration of other countries around the world due to the demise of the America we love and believe in. As Barack points out, we should not blame the Immigrants but the policies that have caused this chaos.

America, we have to ask ourselves, which is more eggrecious, a politician telling us the hard truth, the things we may not want to hear but need to hear OR a politician telling us a Fantasy/Lie, like the Bosnia Sniper Fire fabrication and PERFORMANCE, things we did not need to hear because not Truth, and which is a betrayal of the public trust and a deeply flawed Character Issue. There was a time that politicians was the most Honest Game in town -- George Washington, Honest Abe, Thomas Jefferson these are just a few examples, but they were men of high ethics and moral character who would not dare to tell the public a bold face ... for their own personal gain, it just was not done. And to say that Obama is an elitist, is like coloring Sen. Kerry a deserter, which they tried and was somewhat successful at, and look where it got us, into a war that should never have been waged and a host of other woes that only True Change from the bottom-up can Transform. I hope the people will see through Clinton and McCain's politicking, Distorting and twisting his words and Message for their own political gain and rally to Obama's aide who in all honesty is trying to Change Washington from a Power Broker to Power People, because in the end it will be the people's voice and votes that matter. Barack Obama in his attempt to speak the clear-cold truth to America has produced a crisis effect, can we handle the truth, seeing things as they are -- the good and the bad, because that is the only way we can change things for the better in America to look at the hard facts and stop trying to sweep them under the rug or have politicians tell us that things are Great, when they are terribly wrong. They are not right and people are bitter, but we have a chance for Hope now; We have a Chance to Change, that hope -- that change is in the body of Barack Obama! Let no one fool you because if you do, you are saying you rather hear a lying politican than one who speaks Truth!

But working people don't really seem to care.

On what do you base this remark? There were no polls over the weekend. The ARG poll, if accurate, reveals that they did care, and it wiped out Obama's standing in PA. But it will take more polls to be sure.

In the meantime, you haven't clue one as to whether or not voters care.

Cal, there are several daily tracking polls. I'm sorry if you don't realize this. Do some research before you accuse people of lying.

The problem isn't "bitter," though it's easy to see why Obama supporters would like to shift the conversation there.

The problem is "clinging to religion" put next to Obama's 20 year relationship with his church.

And before you mention ARG, go to their site and read their polls predicting Clinton wins in Wisconsin, Iowa, Delaware, Connecticut and half the other states that Obama won. Also remember that 20 point win is in line with other outliers from a week ago predicting very similar wins.

It's pretty clear there's something really fishy going on with ARG's methodology.

Obama is a covert Muslim, a double agent in the clash of civilizations!

err...

Obama is a radical fundamentalist BLACK Christian!

err, sorry, wrong memo...

Obama is an elitist Marxist who hates all religion!

(I can't wait to see what happens when Clinton's people find out that Obama is part Jewish.)

Wait!-- I thought he was related to Dick Cheney?

And now three polls (+ a polling outfit I'm not familiar with) confirm that there has been no damage due to this.

Can the elite press and the upper-class folks who comment in these blogs now stop pretending that they have even the slightest clue how us average Americans are going to take things? Nothing is more elitist than that.

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