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ALL GOOD THINGS MUST COME TO AN END, THE BAD ONES JUST LAST FOREVER.

George Packer touched off a discussion yesterday with a comment suggesting that conditions in Iraq might be improving so much that Obama won't able to see through his ambitious withdrawal plan. This is very optimistic, to say the least, but even if Packer is right (and he almost certainly isn't), Obama sees the whole engagement as a bad strategic move, and is going to be able to make political headway by offering to shift the fight to Al Qaeda and Afghanistan.

The right, furthermore, is going to be hard pressed to explain to a very war-weary public why, if things are going so well, we need to remain in the country. But given the continuing lack of political progress and resulting violence, I also think Packer and friends are talking about improvement too soon -- the number of troops killed rose from May to June.

Bonus Morning Tidbit: Forcing myself to watch Hardball last night, I received the dubious pleasure of hearing Pete Hegseth of Vets for Freedom claim, on McCain's behalf, that "judgement was calling for a surge when no one else was."

--Tim Fernholz



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The right, furthermore, is going to be hard pressed to explain to a very war-weary public why, if things are going so well, we need to remain in the country

It pisses off the liberals. Surely that outcome is worth any amount of blood and treasure.

They might as well play Whatever It Is, I'm Against It" as "Hail to the Chief".

"George Packer... suggest[ed] that conditions in Iraq might be improving so much that Obama won't able to see through his ambitious withdrawal plan."

Okay, Mr. Super-Genius, under what conditions *would* it be acceptable for us to do anything other than stay there forever?

And when's this "us" going to include any of the "Iraq 4evah!!!1!" folks?

Remember, if things are going well in Iraq we have to stay and if things are going badly we have to stay. It's really very simple.

With the surge going so well, can we assume that the 100 years of "peaceful" occupation will begin in 2009 rather than 2013 ?

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