The anti-patriotism of he American Right is becoming eerily reminiscent of the French Right of the 1930s.

It isn't quite fair to say Sheuer is from "the right". He is nutty, for sure. But he was very much against the Iraq war, and was a harsh critic of the Bush administrations foreign policy.

More than anything, he is bloodthirsty.

You know what would have been great?

If President George Bush had captured Osama bin Laden instead of letting him get away with destroying the World Trade Center and killing thousands of Americans.

I find it absolutely incredible that no one on the left ever points out that these monstrous a**es dealt with 9/11 by invading the wrong country and letting the bad guy get away.

Seriously, why should I be impressed Bush tortured a goatherder? ANYBODY can torture a goatherder. Seriously, a rich dude could fly into Afghanistan and hire guys to take pretty much anybody off the streets, put 'em on a plane, and torture them just for kicks. It's not all that impressive an accomplishment.

The real test was capturing bin Laden. They failed, failed, failed.

In order to be protected against terrorist attacks, we need to be attacked by terrorists.
This guy isn't from the right, he's from the other side of the looking glass.

I gonna have to go ahead and agree with SteveS completely.

Scheuer paints cold war-era thinking, especially as regards our policy towards Israel.

Like the wingnuts, he is big into the idea of the "liberal-pacifist media" and he clearly doesn't censor himself beyond (I assume) not dropping sensitive material.

I once say him tell a Fox News host that we will lose to the Taliban because we don't have the political will to send in 500K troops and keep them there as long as it takes.

In short, I think he's certainly extremist in foreign policy terms but more of a wild card than a wingnut.

I would encourage anyone to read Steve Coll's Ghost Wars to get an idea of Scheuer's history there in the Wilson era.

Brilliant!

The anti-patriotism of he American Right is becoming eerily reminiscent of the French Right of the 1930s.
Posted by: Steve LaBonne

I studied the the French Right of the 1930s for my Master degree In History here in Montreal. Your comment is exactly right.

The neo-con fantasy (and make no mistake, Beck is one) is a nuclear strike by Muslims (or Mexicans) followed by a police state where everyone is monitored and dissent is crushed.

Why? Because they are crazy.

I'm just surprised they admit it on national television.

I only hope that when the next "terrorist" attack comes and a "major weapon" is deployed, the American public demands a forensic examination of ALL THE EVIDENCE that would make CSI Miami look like a Creationist's middle school science project.

PDB: "Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in U.S."

Patriot: "Ex-cellent!"

As more people have been pointing out lately, for wingnuts, everything is All About Them. Being "right" is more important than Americans' safety? Sure! After all, the important thing is that They Were Right.

These people are scary, narcissistic children in grown-up bodies.

The neo-con fantasy (and make no mistake, Beck is one) is a nuclear strike by Muslims (or Mexicans) followed by a police state where everyone is monitored and dissent is crushed.

Well, of course. How else are we going to preserve our freedoms??

Guys... I think this is satire?? I think you have to remember that Glenn Beck is a comedian. Glenn Beck doesn't want America attack, of course not. He just sees, as many do, that Americans are sleeping to the fact that Obama is destroying our national defense system, as well as our economy.

Re: Bobbi -- Glenn Beck may be a failed comedian, but this is not satire. Conservatives and right-wingers do not get satire, as it appears you have just demonstrated.

The Beck/Scheuer exchange isn't satire. When Colbert does it, that's satire. Watch any Colbert Report, Bobbi?

It is NOT satire; it is utter stupidity. Period.

Obama is destroying our national defense system? By increasing defense spending? Interesting. Some wingnut might accuse you of treason for such an insult to our armed forces.

Of course it's "all about them" just like Iran is "all about them". That's why they bitched and moaned about Obama not talking "tough enough" about the crackdown over there. Their complaints had absolutely nothing to do with what would be more effective foreign policy - it was more about feeding their pathological narcissism, and what makes them feel better about themselves.

So yes, like CHeney these people are hoping for death and destruction here in the US. What Panetta said was absolutely spot-on, and it pained me greatly to read that he had to 'walk it back' just because rightwing nutjobs got their hackles raised.

Nice dada reference at the end there. Very appropriate.

It's an interesting question.

In 2009, Michael Scheuer says that only a massive terrorist attack on the US will be enough to rouse the incumbent president to protect the nation adequately.
In 1999, Scheuer was head of the CIA's bin Laden tracking unit. He was immensely frustrated at the Clinton administration's perceived lack of focus on the capture of bin Laden (see, among others, "Ghost Wars" by Steve Coll).

It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that Scheuer felt the same way in 1999 that he does in 2009: that a Democratic president was not taking counter-terrorism seriously enough, and that only a major terrorist attack would shake matters up enough.

The difference is that, in 1999, Scheuer was in an excellent position to do something about it.

Obama is destroying our national defense system? By increasing defense spending? Interesting. Some wingnut might accuse you of treason for such an insult to our armed forces.

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