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COULTER COMES OUT AGAINST WOMEN VOTING.

Most of the time I ignore aging would-be pin-up Ann Coulter, but this week she came out with a whopper that could be as much of a gift to the Democratic Party as MoveOn.org's advertisement on Gen. Petraeus was for the G.O.P. More of a gift, even.

Usually, like most bullies, Coulter restricts herself to mocking those who have less social and political power -- gays, Arab-Americans, Muslims, and so on. But now she's gone and started gunning against the majority of the electorate.

The New York Observer's George Gurley sat down with Coulter as part of her P.R. push around her new book, If Democrats Had Any Brains, They’d Be Republicans. Here's what she had to say about women voters:

If we took away women’s right to vote, we’d never have to worry about another Democrat president. It’s kind of a pipe dream, it’s a personal fantasy of mine, but I don’t think it’s going to happen. And it is a good way of making the point that women are voting so stupidly, at least single women.

It also makes the point, it is kind of embarrassing, the Democratic Party ought to be hanging its head in shame, that it has so much difficulty getting men to vote for it. I mean, you do see it’s the party of women and "We’ll pay for health care and tuition and day care — and here, what else can we give you, soccer moms?’'

I would like to see that quote, "If we took away women's right to vote, we'd never have to worry about another Democratic president. It's kind of a pipe dream, a personal fantasy of mine," as the header on GOTV mailers along with pictures of Coulter and whichever candidates were stupid enough to associate themselves with her earlier in the year. I would like to see it on television ads.

The idea that today's G.O.P. leaders are craven and idiotic enough to associate themselves with someone who could say such a thing will catapult women to the polls.

--Garance Franke-Ruta



COMMENTS

The Townhall has had other women advocating the disenfranchising of women on similar grounds. Likewise, some fundamentalist lady blogs believe that women's suffrage dilutes democracy because her vote might cancel out her husband's vote and his vote is the one which matters.

Well, Republicans have been antagonizing a majority of the electorate for the last seven years (even longer, if you count the anti-Clinton jihad), quite profitably and successfully, so why should they stop now?

If Democrats figure out how to take advantage of *this*, I'll be impressed; they haven't capitalized on the abundant opportunities already existing, so I'm not holding my breath.

(And what's Ann's defense of her Florida voter-registration follies, "Stop me before I vote again!"?)

Hey great post, way to continue the dowdification of political discourse, aging pinup, ha ha ha ha, that showed her. I mean after all her ideas are beneath contempt, her arguments without foundation, form or logic, which makes her the perfect spokesperson for the right; but rather than stick to the point you make a pointless personal insult. Good work.

You never address the substance of Ann's statement that without women voters, especially single women because married women are more likely to vote GOP, the Dems would never be elected to the Presidency. As a matter of fact, is she right or wrong? If she is right, and she usually is, do you think that presents a problem for the Dems?

She'a been saying that for years, actually.

You never address the substance of Ann's statement that without women voters, especially single women because married women are more likely to vote GOP, the Dems would never be elected to the Presidency. As a matter of fact, is she right or wrong? If she is right, and she usually is, do you think that presents a problem for the Dems?

Would the Republicans ever be elected again if the Evangelists were banned from voting? We can play the same game with all sorts of groups. Come to think of it, would the Democrats ever be out of the power again if men were banned from voting?

But J., everyone knows that if men have different preferences from women than the man's preference is normal and the woman's preference is aberrant.

So if knuckle-dragging subhumans were banned from voting, e'd never have another republican president? You can see where tthis is going, of course.

"It's kind of a pipe dream, a personal fantasy of mine..."

You cut it there, but I like the rest of the quote even better: "... but I don't think it's going to happen."

See, she's not SURE that it won't happen, she just thinks it's unlikely. Basically, she doubts that the conservative movement will ever get enough power to follow through and disenfranchise women. But she can hope and fantasize that maybe, someday, it actually will.

You really have to click through to see the picture of Ann to get why I said that about "aging pin-up."

GFR: I think you said aging "would-be" pinup, which is more accurate.

I'd like to start a new meme: Ann should never be referred to as anything other than Lurch - as in "you rang...?" form the Addams family - becasue that's whom she most resembles.

As for the ridiculous post by T Jasper Parnel (a bit pretentious, aren't we...?) above re: ad hominum attacks, Well: what goes around comes around, Bitch...!

If she is right, and she usually is, do you think that presents a problem for the Dems?

I honestly don't understand why this would be a problem for Dems, any more than lack of appeal among women would be a problem for Republicans. Are men joining the electorate at greater rates than non-men, or something?

If she is right, and she usually is, do you think that presents a problem for the Dems?

I don't know that Coulter has ever been right about anything ever. I certainly can't recall hearing or reading anything she has posited that is even close to correct or truthful. Indeed, her lies are so weirdly blatant that I am usually somewhat amazed by her willingness to utter them.

But the more important issue of your statement/question is why you think there should be any question as to whether getting the majority of women's vote ought to be a problem for Dems. What would be the problem exactly? Cooties?

Pinup?? Do you know what they usually look like? I've seen better cheesecake associated with John Edwards.

I'm not a big fan of Coulter or her manner of discourse. But you don't address the root of her argument. Which as a Republican-leaning libertarian, is fine by me.

That the Dems appeal to women in much larger numbers then men and the reverse for the GOP ought to tell the parties something about their core issues and political philosophies.

I'm not any more happy that the GOP can't appeal to women than that the Dems can't appeal to men.

Tells me the parties are creating a gender divide, not trying to heal it.

Doesn't speak well for either party. And you might learn something by considering it seriously, rather than attack the straw-women set up by radicals like Coulter. Kind of puts you in the same category, no?

That the Dems appeal to women in much larger numbers then men and the reverse for the GOP ought to tell the parties something about their core issues and political philosophies.

Well, what do you think it tells us? Particularly, what do you think dems should learn (and change) based upon the fact that they only get say 44% of the male vote?

Actually all we have to do is ban white men from voting and the GOP wouldn't win another election. I believe both black and latino men vote mostly D.

As a white man with more than enough brains to never vote Republican, I'll stick with the majority of women and be proud of it!

That the Dems appeal to women in much larger numbers then men and the reverse for the GOP ought to tell the parties something about their core issues and political philosophies.

Doesn't it say more about the differences between men and women than the differences between the two parties?

The numbers simply demonstrate that, on the whole, men and women have somewhat different outlooks on political issues and the world. With that in mind, it would be pretty shocking if men and women suddenly started voting for the exact same candidates in the exact same proportions.

As a matter of fact, is she right or wrong? If she is right, and she usually is, do you think that presents a problem for the Dems?

The last I heard,the fact that most members of a substantial demographic group tended to vote for a particular party is not a problem for that party.

Only you guys who don't beleive in democracy, and who think that being supported by blacks, women, Hispanics, gays, and other people you don't like delegitimzes a party, see that as a problem.

...what do you think [D]ems should learn (and change) based upon the fact that they only get say 44% of the male vote?

Kerry could have won by 430 electoral votes in 2004 by announcing" "Tomorrow Sen. Edwards and I are going to take this Ryder truck full of ammonium nitrate and dragster fuel up to Tonawanda and turn the Islamic center there into a smoking crater. Members of the media are invited to attend. Suck on that, George, and praise Jesus!"

But he didn't. Because he couldn't.

There are worse things than losing elections....

You never address the substance of Ann's statement that without women voters, especially single women because married women are more likely to vote GOP, the Dems would never be elected to the Presidency. As a matter of fact, is she right or wrong?

Aren't single women the fastest-growing demographic in the country? If she's right, I'd say it presents a big problem for the GOP.

If she is right, and she usually is, do you think that presents a problem for the Dems?

Only if her fantasy comes true.

The Democrats are not a real party because they get their votes from Women, African Americans, Latinos, Gays, Lesbians, Union Workers, the Educated, East Coasters, West Coasters, and people who care about other people.

Not real Americans.

She's right. Giving women the right to vote was the biggest mistake ever. Women = socialists. That's their behavior by nature. How else do you think Feminism was capable of ruining the USA? Of course, the complicity of weak men (manginas - male enablers) helped them along, just like they do today. It's amazing the double standard in our culture. Are you afraid to say the truth about women? You must be afraid of offending the PC thought police. Patriarchy is the only solution.

"You never address the substance of Ann's statement"

ROFL... That's because there was no substance. That you think there was says much about you.

"that without women voters ... the Dems would never be elected to the Presidency."

Dear heart, I could just as easily say that "without (white) male voters, the Republicans would never be elected to the Presidency." Do you feel that this is a substantive point? That it merits discussion? That it says something about Republicans? About Democrats? That men should be prohibited from voting?

"do you think that presents a problem for the Dems?"

Of course not, moron, any more than does Republian dependency on the white male vote. It's dumb, which is why all it merits is ridicule, particularly with respect to her desire to ban all women from voting.

Women vote more stupidly than men do.

Single women vote more stupidly than married women do.

Maybe that explains why Ann Coulter can't figure out which precinct to vote in.

By the way, she said "Democrat president", not "Democratic president".

"would-be pinup" is dangerously close to commenting on Coulter's looks, which should be avoided, but it's not over the line: it's about Coulter's pretensions, not her looks; even if she had "model" looks, she'd still be a "would-be pinup".


Ann Coulter herself may be aging , and some of the things she has said and done may not pass generally as easily as she has into ascension . How easily you forget the asceticism she models upon herself the unbearable Coulter humility . She has modestly given away anything that was never hers in the first place . A model for us for all time .

A pipe dream of mine for some time was for racist assholes to refrain from voting. Then we'd never have another Republican President. Same for wacko fundamentalist religios freaks.

Ann Coulter as one of "today's GOP leaders"? ROFL. It's time for you to return the kindergarten politics and start over.

In the 2006 midterms the Democrats DID take a majority of the male vote. So Coulter is wrong on her basic facts.

Is anyone ever going to point this out in this thread, or are we just going to continue on the incorrect assumption that the Democrats can't win the male vote?

Actually, it's an INTERVIEW, and if miscreants such as any interesting leftie commentators, such as Maher, who occasionally makes sense, were frisked in their INTERVIEWS as often as Ann, they'd probably say some silly things.

Actually, I'll go along with Jack Nicholson in "As Good As It Gets," when he was asked about how well he portrayed women.'

"First I take a man, then I subtract brains & accountability."

Bravo, Jack, inadvertently got it right, cuz it was in the script! Even as satire, that one works!

It's pretty insulting to say that the only way republicans can win is if half the American population had their freedom removed.

Nothing says today's republicans are the biggest fucking losers like Ann Coulter. LOL!

I'm sure the libtards like Garance-Ruta figured out beforehand that a media blizzard on this out-of-context statement will end up selling more of Ann's books for her.

She's smarter, better-educated, and a craftier sales-marketing phenom than any woman on the left, and smarter than all the women writers save Laura Ingraham.

What if the franchise were limited to men who are both emotionally mature and secure in their masculinity? The Grand Old Pervert party wouldn't stand a chance.

Alternatively, what about limiting the franchise to those sufficiently literate to understand and correctly apply the distinction between a noun(e.g., "Democrat") and an adjective or adverb (e.g., "Democratic")?

A fantasy of mine is that Democratic pundits will stop paying so much attention to Republican pundits and actually focus on the issues.

Coulter is easy to hate. But "What makes you so afraid/of all the people you say you hate" (The Beastie Boys)?

Dont' be a hater! Hatred of Coulter, Bush, Cheney, all of this leads in the same direction as the Angry White Male's hatred of Clinton inthe 1990s. While Republicans were busy hating, we ran away with the issues. There's the lesson in that. Will we learn it?

We're all aging.

Perhaps the following adjectives are more appropriate:

Elderly

Desiccated

Hoary.

Once again, the Drive-By Media quotes a distintuished commentator out of context. Anne was clearly only referring to "phony women" like Sally Field, whom libruls used by tying lies to her waist and shoving her onstage.

In fact she was referring to only "one" phony woman, she just hasn't gotten around to mentioning her yet. That will come later. But that time difference will disappear through the magic of editing.

"...a gift to the Democratic Party ...."

Well, if she was running for anything you might have a point, but if she's out to sell books, she's got you beat.

Does she not realize she's a single "woman"? How stupid is that? Of course, the obvious really doesn't appeal to GOPhers does it?

I find it laughable that some commenters urge Democrats to ignore this sort of thing and talk about issues instead, or that they disclaim its usefulness as a GOTV tool because Coulter isn't running for office.

What's more likely to annex non-voting young women into the Democratic base? A 10-point plan for education reform, or showing them what a leading conservative pundit thinks about their right to vote? One reason Democrats have so much trouble winning at election time is because something in the liberal mentality rebels at good old-fashioned rallying of the troops.

Speaking as a white male, the dienfranchisement of white men might be a good thing. At most it would lead to saner public policy, at worst it would make more of us more sympathetic to disenfranchised minorities.

Ann Coulter is full of shit, Pull the Mexican pecker out of her ass, so the bitch can think straight.

Why are you wasting time on this clueless obnoxious bitch? The media will only focus on this crap and not on the real issues. This non-news news which distracts from idiot boy's administration and seves only the administration's bid. Why listen to such a psychotic, rambling bitch, when the sherding of the constitution continues unabated.
I just can not believe all the lies, unthruths and hate that comes out of her mouth. And the worst thing is, people actually believe it!

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