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WATERBOARDING IS TORTURE.

Bret Stephens performs the favorite conservative trick of defending the use of torture by defining methods of torture which he favors as "not torture":

"For the record, count me as one who does not object to the interrogation to which KSM was reportedly subjected, including waterboarding. This is not because I take the use of waterboarding lightly (although I have a hard time concluding that a technique, however terrifying, to which CIA officers are willing to subject themselves experimentally can properly be counted as torture). It's because I take the threat posed by KSM seriously."

Waterboarding is torture. It was devised by torturers as a method of torture. CIA officers subject themselves to this torture as part of their training to withstand torture. Bret Stephens supports torture.

"As with the militant anti-abortion movement, which believes that every abortion is murder and thus that every abortionist is a "murderer," the Times editorialists and their fellow travelers would characterize anyone who favors so much as touching a hair on 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's head as "pro-torture." This isn't argument. It's moral bullying."

This seems a lot less clever when you consider that the difference between people who believe that "every abortion is murder and thus that every abortion doctor is a 'murderer'" and people who "characterize anyone who favors so much as touching a hair on 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's head as 'pro-torture'" is that the former actually exist.

--Matthew Duss



COMMENTS

Classic strawman argument used by someone who is unable to actually deal with the real issues.

of all the sickening positions advocated by the american right wing, the pro-torture one is the sickest.

and all because they have absolutely no judgement and no ability to understand that fear by itself is not a basis for formulating policy.

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