THAT BIG BAD POLL AND TONIGHT'S DEBATE.
CBS News/New York Times released their latest poll the night before debate day -- way to capture that news cycle, fellas -- and they've got Obama up a ridiculous 14 points, 53-39. The McCain camp says polling is volatile and that this result is an outlier but, even if they're right, when 14 is your outlier and 10 is your average, there's not enough spin in the world to get you out of the hole.
Here's an interesting cross-tab from the Times :
What interests is me is that Republicans put nearly the same explain/attack numbers up for both candidates. If Republicans think that Obama is running a campaign equally focused on outlining his own policies and attacking his opponent's, then it's going to be very hard for the GOP to continue to create a false equivalency between Obama's attacks and McCain's. Independents and Democrats overwhelmingly think Obama's campaign is focused on promoting his vision.
The poll's conclusion that McCain's attacks in the past weeks have backfired is interesting going into tonight because McCain is under pressure from his base, some of his advisers, and even the Obama campaign to bring his negative campaign into the open. If he does bring up Ayers or Wright, or accuse Obama of abandoning the troops, my sense is that he'll look bad and that Obama will have a good response. That response will probably be something along the lines of what Bill Burton outlined in a strategy memo sent to reporters: Dismiss the attacks and return to the economy. If McCain doesn't bring up his character attacks, either in response to the poll or in keeping with his let-the-campaign-do-the-dirty-work strategy, he looks a bit, hmm, timid?
On a related note, I have been wondering recently, as Obama climbs in the polls, if the conventional wisdom after the election might be that Rove-style smear politics are less effective these days. Obviously we'll never get rid of the grit of our political life and attack ads are here to stay, but maybe vicious attacks on patriotism and ethics will become less common. But Jason Zengerle catches a depressing new meme developing among conservatives: If McCain loses, it will be because he wasn't negative enough. Let me second his ugh. The reinvention of the GOP that follows this election will be interesting to watch -- quick quiz: see if you can name five rising conservatives out there stumping for McCain -- but hopefully it will be based more on explaining than attacking.
-- Tim Fernholz
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COMMENTS (6)
Jason Zengerle catches a depressing new meme developing among conservatives: If McCain loses, it will be because he wasn't negative enough.
Daniel Larison of The American Conservative called that a week ago:
... if attacking Obama on his associations was an effective tactic, McCain would have done it with the same gusto he showed when belittling Obama’s alleged lack of understanding of foreign affairs. That does not seem to be the lesson that many of his supporters are going to take away from last night. Instead, they are going to adopt something like Vietnam revisionism in which they express certainty that their candidate could have won if he’d just been willing to do whatever was necessary.
Posted by: Steve M. | October 15, 2008 12:06 PM
Everybody's focusing on the attack/explain part of the polls, but there are some other, IMHO, TRULY disastrous results buried in there.
Like: "More Think McCain Would Raise Their Taxes than Obama"
Forget about whether it's true or not; NEVER in my lifetime has a repub been unable to convince the electorate (usually by a monumental margin) that his Dem opponent would raise taxes more than he would. This really is unbelievable, and tells me that McCain's campaign messaging is a complete disaster.
If he as a republican can't convince average voters that he's not a tax raiser he might as well give his supporters their money back and go home.
Another killer: "More people (20%) think McCain
would treat whites preferentially than (15%) think Obama would
favor blacks."
Ouch!
Posted by: mars | October 15, 2008 12:14 PM
TIME FOR A RADICAL CHANGE IN THE ELECTORAL PROCESS
Taxpayers deserve independent representation with teeth. NOT suppliant gofers taking orders from special interests.
http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/10/electoral-process-urgent-change-is.html
Posted by: PacificGatePost | October 15, 2008 12:50 PM
Don't forget, it took the English Tories two full election cycles to figure it out. For six long years they were extolling the extremist dead end and for two more years they were still in the denial stage of therapy. And even the William Hague and Iain Duncan Smith Tories are reasonable compared to the current Republicans.
Posted by: DBX | October 15, 2008 12:51 PM
Actually, the meme the GOP will focus on to explain their loss will be that the minorities stole the election.
Posted by: bucky | October 15, 2008 1:05 PM
Well, if the Democrats would work on securing the integrity of our elections, rather than acting like they think they have something to gain from Unidentitfiable Voters, then they won't have that problem in the future.
Posted by: Anonymous | October 15, 2008 5:13 PM