I'm not a HRC fan, but given that a staple of Obama's stump speech has been attacking his opponents for running for president out of ambition or long-held plans, I think this is fair game.

TPM Election Central posted about this a couple of weeks ago.

I think this is fair game.

I second that. Obama's has long gone after Hillary. It's clear the Obama campaign abandoned long ago any pretense of running a campaign that takes the high road.

but given that a staple of Obama's stump speech has been attacking his opponents for running for president out of ambition or long-held plans, I think this is fair game.

Ahem. For the love of god, it's a third grade essay!

Even if there was some kind of equivalency between (the admittedly disputed) Gerth account of the 20 year plan and Obama's third-grade presidential ambitions, it still would not be a good idea for the Clinton camp to being this up. This comes across as simultaneously petty, stupid and desperate.

Obama's[sic] has long gone after Hillary.

This is hardly true. In fact, Obama has been criticized extensively for not going after Clinton enough. Only in the last three weeks has this dynamic changed.

Give me a break.

Nothing that Obama says on the stump about folks being politically ambitious warrants an attack about what he said or wrote in grade school.

What's next? Are they going to accuse him of being a flip flopper tomorrow because he told his second grade teacher he wanted to be an astronaut?

Hillary knows full well that she cannot demonstrate that Obama had his eyes on the Presidency based on the forthcoming text in his book Dreams of My Father and the fact that even if he was ambitious, it was for the greater good as he went to work with the common people as a community organizer which only demonstrates his true committment and adds validity and sincerity to how genuine his committment is to the citzenry even if did aspire to be President.

His ambitions weren't personal with that track record if anything they are self-sacrificing and a willingness to serve to bring about greater good for the masses versus the corporate lobbyist and special interests that have hijacked our system of governance.

Baracks ambition is to restore our democratic system of 3 co-equal branches of government. He taught citizens how to be politically active and exercise their rights as citizens. He did not go to work for a corporation and just build personal wealth.

Hillary is desperate, besides her ambitions look so much worse as she was not willing to strive for anything on her own she was content to use her husband's political connections, and even lay claim to his experience as President in pursuit of her PERSONAL ambition to be the first WOMAN President.

That is the whole problem with what Hillary is doing...it just makes HER look bad.

Tom

Obama has been using a false story to attack her by saying "I have no long held plans to be president" He makes that claim from the Gerth/Natta book which has been shown to be a lie by the suppposed "source", Taylor Branch the historian. Obama has a research dept and he's smart enough to know that the story was false....but he says it anyway. Just like he says his health care plan covers everyone when it doesn't.

So it is more than reasonable to respond to a lie with some truth. It is true that Obama has long had presidential ambitions and they don't just quote kindergarten but people throughout his life.

I say it's okay for Obama to want to grow up to be president...but Obama says it's bad for Hillay to want to be presidient.

A lot of double standards going on here.